Hidden Tracks never really phase me. I don't own an audio cd player, so the first thing i do when i buy a CD, is pop it in my computer and rip through it with Audio Catalyst. Now traditional after-the-last track hidden ones aren't that bad, they show up nice and easy, just have to do some creative encoding to get past all the crap they throw in front of it. Now, negative time ones require a bit more thought, and more knowing they exist.

Have to set the pre-rip thingy back to however far until the song starts is, so the ripper will start the "song" at negative time. I was bored, does that make it OK?