christians

What will people think when they read that you're a Jesus Freak?

This is a group of noders who have sincerely and publicly declared that they are Christian. This is to say that according to their own lights and the teachings of their church, they have placed their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.

If you're currently keeping your light under a bushel for whatever reason, know that if you decide to come out, we've got your back.

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Testify!

For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain (idea)

2001-09-03 06:40:30
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For me, to live is Christ and to die is gain.
Philippians 1:21-24

"(21) For to me, to live is Christ and to die is gain. (22) But if I am to live on in the flesh, this will mean fruitful labor for me; and I do not know which to choose. (23) But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better; (24) yet to remain on in the flesh is more necessary for your sake"

--St. Paul

I remember the first time I saw this. It completely baffled me: Why in the world would someone be just as well off living as dead? Most people think that death is the final step... the final curtain to life before we shuffle off this mortal coil. For those who have relationships with our heavenly father, though, that couldn't be furthur from the truth.

Let's take a look at how Paul contrasts the two options. He starts off by saying "to live is Christ". What does he mean? Well, earlier he said:

"I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself up for me"
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What Paul's getting at is this: For those who have chosen to give Christ control of their life, quite literally, living is Christ. They've given themselves over to the one who created them in the first place.

Fair enough, but what about death somehow being a gain? Listen again to the words of Paul:

"Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord -- for we walk by faith, not by sight -- we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord."
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If I'm hearing Paul correctly, he's telling us that those who have relationships with Christ will be at home with him in eternity when they die. To those who love Christ enough to give their lives away to him, that's a pretty hefty gain.

For Paul, and indeed for all christians, living is Christ, and dying is gain. Either way, they win. Having the one who designed, created, and sustains them within a whisper of a prayer gives them a winning life; and departing to spend an eternity with a loving heavenly father gives them a winning death.

The War Prayer (thing)

2000-10-16 18:29:02
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The War Prayer

It was a time of great and exalting excitement.
The country was up in
arms, the war was on, in every breast
burned the holy fire of patriotism; the
drums were beating, the bands
playing, the toy pistols popping, the
bunched firecrackers hissing and
spluttering; on every hand and far
down the receding and fading spread
of roofs and balconies a fluttering
wilderness of flags flashed in the sun;
daily the young volunteers marched
down the wide avenue gay and fine
in their new uniforms, the proud fathers
and mothers and sisters and
sweethearts cheering them with voices
choked with happy emotion as they
swung by; nightly the packed mass
meetings listened, panting, to patriot
oratory which stirred the deepest
deeps of their hearts, and which they
interrupted at briefest intervals with
cyclone of applause, the tears running
down their cheeks the while; in the
churches the pastors preached
devotion to flag and country, and
invoked God of Battles, beseeching
His aid in our good cause in
outpouring of fervid eloquence which
moved every listener. It was indeed a
glad and gracious time, and the half
dozen rash spirits that ventured to
disapprove of the war and cast a
doubt upon its righteousness
straightway got such a stern and angry
warning that for their personal safety's
sake they quickly shrank out of sight
and offended no more in that way.

Sunday morning came - next day the
battalions would leave for the front; the
church was filled; the volunteers were
there, their young faces alight with
martial dreams - visions of the stern
advance, the gathering momentum, the
rushing charge, the flashing sabers,
the flight of the foe, the tumult, the
enveloping smoke, the fierce pursuit,
and surrender! - then home from the
war, bronzed heroes, welcomed,
adored, submerged in golden seas of
glory! With the volunteers sat their dear
ones, proud, happy, and envied by the
neighbors and friends who had no
sons and brothers to send forth to the
field of honor, there to win for the flag,
or failing, die the noblest of noble
deaths. The service proceeded; a war
chapter from the Old Testament was
read; the first prayer was said; it was
followed by an organ burst that shook
the building, and with one impulse the
house rose, with glowing eyes and
beating hearts, and poured out that
tremendous invocation -

"God the all-terrible! Thou who
ordainest,

Thunder thy clarion and lightning thy
sword!"
Then came the "long" prayer. None
could remember the like of it for
passionate pleading and moving and
beautiful language. The burden of its
supplication was that an ever-merciful
and benignant Father of us all would
watch over our noble young soldiers,
and aid, comfort, and encourage them
in their patriotic work; bless them,
shield them in the day of battle and
the hour of peril, bear them in His mighty
hand, make them strong and confident,
invincible in the bloody onset; help
them to crush the foe, grant to them
and to their flag and country
imperishable honor and glory-

An aged stranger entered and moved
with slow and noiseless step up the
main aisle, his eyes fixed upon the
minister, his long body clothed in a
robe that reached to his feet, his head
bare, his white hair descending in a
frothy cataract to his shoulders, his
seamy face unnaturally pale, pale even
to ghastliness, With all eyes following
him and wondering, he made his silent
way; without pausing, he ascended to
the preacher's side and stood there, waiting.
With shut lids the preacher,
unconscious of his presence,
continued his moving prayer, and at
last finished it with the words, uttered
in fervent appeal, "Bless our arms,
grant us victory, O Lord our God,
Father and Protector of our land and
flag!"

The stranger touched his arm,
motioned him to step aside - which the
startled minister did - and took his
place. During some moments he
surveyed the spellbound audience with
solemn eyes, in which burned an
uncanny light; then in a deep voice he
said:

"I come from the Throne-bearing a
message from Almighty God!"
The
words smote the house with a shock; if
the stranger perceived it he gave no
attention. "He has heard the prayer of
His servant your shepherd, and will
grant it if such shall be your desire
after I, His messenger, shall have
explained to you its import - that is to
say, its full import. For it is like unto
many of the prayers of men, in that it
asks for more than he who utters it is
aware of - except he pause and think."

"God's servant and yours has prayed
his prayer. Has he paused and taken
thought? Is it one prayer? No, it is two -
one uttered, the other not. Both have
reached the ear of Him Who heareth
all supplications, the spoken and the
unspoken. Ponder this - keep it in
mind. If you would beseech a blessing
upon yourself, beware! Lest without
intent you invoke a curse upon a
neighbor at the same time. If you pray
from the blessing of rain upon your
crop which needs it, by that act you are
possibly praying for a curse upon
some neighbor's crop which may not
need rain and can be injured by it'

"You have heard your servants prayer -
the uttered part of it.I am
commissioned of God to put into
words the other part of it - that part
which the pastor - and also you in your
hearts- fervently prayed silently. And
ignorantly and unthinkingly? God grant
that it was so! You heard these words:
'Grant us the victory, O Lord our God!'
That is sufficient. The whole of the
uttered prayer is compact into those
pregnant words. Elaborations were not
necessary. When you have prayed for
victory you have prayed for many
unmentioned results which follow
victory - must follow it, cannot help but
follow it. Upon the listening spirit of
God the Father fell also the unspoken
part of the prayer. He commandeth me
to put it into words. Listen!

"O Lord our Father, our young patriots,
idols of our hearts, go forth to battle -
be Thou near them! With them - in
spirit - we also go forth from the sweet
peace of our beloved firesides to
smite the foe. O Lord our God, help us
to tear their soldiers to bloody shreds
with our shells; help us to cover their
smiling fields with the pale forms of
their patriot dead; help us to drown the
thunder of the guns with the shrieks of
their wounded, writhing in pain; help us
to lay waste their humble homes with a
hurricane of fire; help us to wring
the hearts of their unoffending widows with
unavailing grief; help us to turn them
out roofless with their little children to
wander unfriended the wastes of their
desolated land in rags and hunger and
thirst, sports of the sun flames of
summer and the icy winds of winter,
broken in spirit, worn with travail
imploring Thee for the refuge of the
grave and denied it -for our sakes
who adore Thee, Lord, blast
their hopes, blight their lives, protract their
bitter pilgrimage, make heavy their
steps, water their way with their tears,
stain the white snow with the blood of
their wounded feet! We ask it, in the
spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source
of Love, and Who is the ever- faithful
refuge and friend of all that are sore
beset and seek His aid with humble
and contrite hearts. Amen."

(After a pause) "Ye have prayed it; if
ye still desire it,speak! The
messenger of the Most High waits."

It was believed afterward that the man
was a lunatic, because there was no
sense in what he said.

Mark Twain (1835-1910)


For more than ten years, Mark Twain opposed the war and imperialism as a vice president and outspoken publicist of the Anti-Imperialist League. From his return to the United States from Europe in 1900 until shortly before his death in 1910, he expressed his opposition to imperialism in numerous essays, stories, and sketches, public and private letters, and interviews and speeches. Mark Twain's involvement with the anti-imperialist movement was one of the longest and most significant political affiliations of his life, and it was widely recognized during his lifetime, inspiring editorials and political cartoons from California to London, Bermuda to Canada, and probably further a field. But like the Philippine-American War itself, and turn-of-the-century imperialism more generally, this part of Mark Twain's career is rarely recognized today.

Sometimes published as an essay or in poem form, Twain places the reader in a church where a clerical figure is blessing the troops as they go off to do battle. The sermon uses powerful language and summons pictures of righteousness.

A full text was collected in Europe and Elsewhere (1923). Twain apparently dictated The War Prayer around 1904-05; it was found after his death among his unpublished manuscripts. He wrote a friend saying, "I don't think the prayer will be published in my time."

Written in response to the Philippine-American War of 1899-1902 Mark Twain wrote the satirical story The War Prayer in 1905 followed by a scathing indictment of the U.S. troops and in March of 1906. They had massacred 900 Muslim Filipinos -- men, women and children -- at Bud Dajo. The Filipinos were trapped in the volcanic crater and fired upon for four days from the heights above until all were reported killed only one young girl survived the horror. Twain continued to comment on the war and U.S. imperialism until at least 1908.

Albert Bigelow Paine had, during his time as trustee of the Mark Twain Papers, originally published extracts from The War Prayer in his 1912 biography of Mark Twain with the comment that the author said he had been urged not to publish it. According to Paine, Mark Twain acceded to its suppression by stating, to colleague Dan Beard, who had dropped in to see him. While he was there Clemens read The War Prayer, telling Beard that he had read it to his daughter Jean, and others, who had told him he must not print it, for it would be regarded as sacrilege.

    "Still, you are going to publish it, are you not?"

    Clemens, pacing up and down the room in his dressing gown and slippers, shook his head.

    "No", he said, "I have told the whole truth in that, and only dead men can tell the truth in this world.

    "It can only be published after I am dead."

Outraged by American military intervention in the Philippines, Mark Twain initially tried submitting it to Harper's Bazaar. The women's magazine rejected it for being too radical. As he had predicted the piece wasn't published until after his death, in the November 1916 issue of Harper's Monthly, when World War I made it even more timely.

This poem is public domain.

Sources:

Albert Bigelow Paine, Mark Twain, A Biography (Harper & Brothers, 1912).

identity theory | the war prayer by mark twain:
www.identitytheory.com/social/twain_prayer.html

Zwick, Jim. Duration of Philippine-American War: 1899-1913, February 1999:
http://www.boondocksnet.com/centennial/sctexts/zwick99a.html

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Oriental Orthodox Church (thing)

2005-09-11 22:40:11
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The Oriental Orthodox churches are among the oldest Christian churches in existence, and the term reflects one of the earliest schisms within Christianity. The Oriental Orthodox Church and the rest of the Christian church, centered in Rome, broke apart during the 5th century CE. They are sometimes also called "non-Chalcedonian churches", as the schism that separates them from Roman Catholics and Eastern Orthodox Christians began in the wake of the fourth ecumenical council, the Council of Chalcedon.

Don't confuse Oriental Orthodox Christianity with Eastern Orthodox Christianity; the names are similar, and both can be categorized under Eastern Christianity. But the separation between the Eastern Orthodox Church and the Roman Catholic Church occurred later, during the Great Schism of the 11th century. The division between the Oriental Orthodox churches and the rest of the Christian Church is much older. Furthermore, don't confuse the Oriental Orthodox Church with the Assyrian Church of the East (sometimes, and confusingly, called the Assyrian Orthodox Church), which entered schism with the rest of the Christian Church some years before the Catholic-Oriental Orthodox schism, and whose beliefs are roundly denounced by the Oriental Orthodox Church.


Organization

Much like the Eastern Orthodox Church, the Oriental Orthodox Church is organized as a collection of several autocephalous churches, which are in full communion with one another but whose highest ranking bishops do not report to a higher authority in the church's hierarchy.

Each of these individual churches is organized hierarchically, under a patriarch (known by additional titles in some of the churches, with the Coptic Patriarch titled Pope) who holds authority over the church's membership. As with the Roman Catholic Church, the Oriental Orthodox churches have three degrees of Holy Orders: bishop, priest, and deacon. The style of church government shared by the Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, and Anglican churches is known as episcopalian governance, with the authority originally held by the Apostles now vested in the bishops (to be discussed below.) Both the Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox churches lack a single, preeminent leader; the patriarchs of these churches are understood to be the next step down the hierarchy, with Jesus as the Christian Church's only leader (though whether He leads the Eastern Orthodox or Oriental Orthodox Church will be left as an exercise for the reader.)


History

The schism between the rest of the Christian Church and the Oriental Orthodox Church occured after the fourth ecumenical council in 451; that Council and all of the ones that followed are repudiated by the Oriental Orthodox Church. The root of the disagreement lies - as with many disagreements in the early Christian Church - with the conception of Christ's nature as a combination of the human and the divine.

The organization of the early Christian Church

The Christian Church of the first few centuries CE (called in the Nicene Creed the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church) was lead by five patriarchs, who sat in Rome, Constantinople, Jerusalem, Antioch, and Alexandria. They each had supreme authority over their own territory, but there was no supreme figure - the patriarchs met as equals, though the Roman patriarch, the Patriarch of the West was "first among equals," a position that came without any formal powers over the other patriarchs. His preeminent status was due to his succeeding Saint Peter, whom Jesus declared to be the first leader of the Christian Church. Rome thus became the political center of Christendom.

With the fragmentation of the Roman Empire into eastern and western halves, and the eventual destruction of the Western Roman Empire, Rome lost its political importance and gradually the West fell into chaos. The Eastern Roman Empire, which became the Byzantine Empire, centered in Constantinople, continued to flourish. The lingua franca of the West was Latin, while that of the East was Greek, and while these cultural differences were minor and had been easily bridged in earlier years, the cultural split between East and West grew over time and was eventually to become a political split as well.

The first three ecumenical councils

The ecumenical councils were meetings of the bishops of the entire Christian Church, beginning in 325 with the Council of Nicea. During these meetings, matters of doctrine and church practice were established by discussion and voting amongst the bishops. The Council of Nicea established the fundamentals of Christian faith, including the trinity, the Nicene Creed, and the nature of Jesus as an equal, uncreated part of the Godhead (thus repudiating the doctrine of Arianism, which held Jesus to be created by the Father.) The few non-trinitarian Christian churches do not accept the validity of the Council of Nicea or any of the subsequent ecumenical councils.

The second ecumenical council, the First Council of Constantinople, dealt mostly with the nature of the Holy Spirit. It took place in 381 and established that the Holy Spirit is of the same substance as the Father, thus repudiating the heresy that the Holy Spirit was not divine. The third council, the Council of Ephesus of 431, dealt with Nestorianism, the heresy that Jesus' human and divine natures were separate, although it's difficult to determine exactly what Nestorius preached, as much of the controversy was probably due to semantics and exaggerations or misstatements of the opposing parties' views. Nevertheless, the Christian Church was split apart by the argument, resulting in the first schism in the Church and the separation of the Assyrian Church of the East (again, not to be confused with any of the Oriental Orthodox churches) from the rest of Christianity.

The monophysite heresy

With the fourth ecumenical council, the Council of Chalcedon in 451, the Church addressed monophysitism, the belief that Christ has only one single nature. Monophysites believe either that Jesus had a human body but a divine mind (more or less), or that the human nature of Jesus "dissolved like a drop of honey in the sea" due to the force of his divine nature. Monophysitism developed essentially out of opposition to Nestorianism, and it was condemned as heretical by the Council of Chalcedon.

The argument amongst the bishops was intense; in the aftermath of the council, some bishops repudiated its findings, claiming that the belief that Christ had two natures was tantamount to Nestorianism; these bishops, in turn, were declared to be monophysite by the rest of the Church, though they denied it. The disagreement led to another schism, this time between the bishops who accepted the validity of the Council of Chalcedon and those who didn't. The Roman Church and the Oriental Orthodox Church were established as separate bodies, each maintaining that it was the One True Church.

It's important to note that Oriental Orthodox doctrine is properly regarded not as monophysite, but "miaphysite", which holds that Christ's divinity and humanity are united in a single nature. In truth, this view is essentially the same as that of the Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox churches, but again subtle semantic issues proved divisive to the early Christian Church.

Since then

Some Oriental Orthodox churches have broken from the Oriental Orthodox communion and entered the Roman Catholic Communion. These churches, which are among the Eastern Rite Catholic churches, are organized much like the Oriental Orthodox churches, headed by patriarchs who have some degree of indepedence from Rome. The Eastern Rite churches have different liturgical rituals than the main body of the Roman Catholic Church, and they have slightly different practices - priests, for instance, are not required to remain celibate in Eastern Rite churches.

The Oriental Orthodox Communion and the Roman Catholic Communion have established closer ties during the 20th century. Recognition has grown that the theological separation between the two churches is small or even nonexistent. In 1984, Pope John Paul II and His Holiness Mar Ignatius Zakka I Iwas, the Patriarch of Antioch and head of the Syriac Orthodox Church, released a joint statement that included the words, "The confusions and schisms that occurred between their Churches in the later centuries, they realize today, in no way affect or touch the substance of their faith, since these arose only because of differences in terminology and culture and in the various formulae adopted by different theological schools to express the same matter. . . . Accordingly, we find today no real basis for the sad divisions and schisms that subsequently arose between us concerning the doctrine of Incarnation." Their statement established mutual recognition of each other's sacraments; the rapprochement between the churches may be a sign of a future movement towards full communion between the two bodies.


Apostolic succession

Apostolic succession refers to the Christian doctrine that the Apostles, during the time of Jesus, were divinely granted the authority to perform certain rites, like blessing the Eucharist during Holy Communion. This authority can be transmitted to another through the rite of ordination, and (according to those denominations that subscribe to the doctrine), there is an unbroken line of transmission of this authority from the Apostles to their modern-day successors, the bishops.

The Roman Catholic Church, the Church of England, the Eastern Orthodox Church, and the Oriental Orthodox Church, along with a few Protestant denominations and (in a radically altered form) the Mormon Church all share the doctrine of apostolic succession. The Roman Catholic Church indeed recognizes the validity of sacraments performed by priests of both of the Orthodox churches.

The relevance of this is that, like the Roman Catholic and Eastern Orthodox churches, the Oriental Orthodox Church extends in an unbroken line from the early Christian church, which according to these churches' beliefs, was specially created and endowed by Jesus. "And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it." (Matthew 16:18)


Sources

http://www.prounione.urbe.it/dia-int/oo-rc_syrindia/doc/i_oo-rc_syrindia_1984.html
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/ooc-e.html
http://www.orthodoxinfo.com/ecumenism/east_orth.aspx
http://www.bible.ca/orthodox-church-autocephalous-hierarchy-organization.htm
http://www.ecumenism.net/denom/orthodox.htm
http://www.sain.org/Armenian.Church/intro.txt
http://www.wcc-coe.org/wcc/what/ecumenical/o-e.html


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