If there is PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE /msg me and I will have this node nuked and if you can tell us what it is, where to buy it or explain how to make it I will send you flowers and candy (I will 100% do this). Barring that.

This is a double question. Why in relation to limitations in our understanding of the brain and orgasms? Why in relation to the Pharma companies producing/researching this?

On the second why I am very confused. Because these companies chose what they developed based on what will sell, zero regard to what society needs. Perhaps this a touchy issue because conceptually it seems like a narcotic? The reason this is a not a good point though is because some people suffer from a disorder called anorgasmia where, usally a woman, cant cum. Mostly this is caused by anxiety but many other medical conditions that affect the nerves in or going to the pelvis can also cause this. So they have a right to this drug, if it exists, because, in the US, you have a right to persue happiness and liberty or something like that.


Anyway any help, preferably biological, would help. Only serious stuff please.


Thanks Geez, it will take me a while to look into that stuff. As for the heroin and e these (especially heroin) can induce orgasm but not instant orgasms and they are not demonstrations of our understanding of cumming and creating a drug to induce it. They are like hacking at you brain with a knife and letting the dopamines spill out.

Someone recently told me of a nitrous oxide type solvent that engorges the clitoris. This has potential. The offer of flowers and chocolate is still open for someone who knows of a drug.

Well, Protector of Mankind- where shall we begin? On the neurological side, a drug constantly causing orgasms is almost certain to be terribly addictive (not to mention sticky) - a rather large amount of dopamine is secreted in the nucleus accumbens as a result of messages sent from the VTA (and I don't know enough about orgasms to track it back from there) - this reinforces behavior (not exactly the same as fun, but they often come together) and is what causes many groups of drugs to be addictive.

From the manufacturing point of view, I'm not so sure this is possible either. I'm sure you'd be willing to skip the genital contractions and secretions, both for the sake of your poor little muscles and glands, and for the sake of your laundry. So we want to stop some acetylcholinergic activities, and perhaps prevent some of the secretion of oxytocin. I'm not a pharmacist, a biologist or a psychiatrist*, but getting these effects focused on the lower part of your body while still getting all the desired affects mentally sounds near impossible to me.

Besides - think about all the effects on the social level…


* Any comments by experts are welcome !
It might be possible to create a drug that has the effects Geez identifies as desirable. However, it may not be possible or particularly beneficial to produce "instant" orgasms. According to conversations with a therapist friend, there is a fair bit of neurological research ongoing that seems to confirm the existence of the chakras that are a focus of tantra and of kundalini yoga, both of which deal a great deal with learning to manage and exchange energies that flow through the various chakras.

There is much in tantric and kundalini tradition to suggest that unleashing these energies without proper care and discipline is unwise, and possibly hazardous to one's health and mental well-being. That would be the bad news.

The good news is that, with devoted study and practice, one can experience orgasm (as distinct from ejaculation and lower abdomen effects mentioned by Geez in all sexes and genders) as more of a full body experience, or localized to one or more of the upper chakras.

My sense from what most people report about their sexual experience is that most orgasms experienced by non-tantra-practicing folk tend to be centered in the lower one or two chakras. Margo Anand's The Art of Sexual Magic is one of the better places to start for a general introduction to tantric principles.

Gina Ogden's book, Women Who Love Sex gives a clear case example of a woman with very good control and abilities to reach orgasm with no apparent physical stimulation ("thinking off" she calls it) but while describing chakric orgasms very clearly, Ogden's book fails to discuss the specifics of what the chakras are, or the fact that they have specific, consistent locations along and near the spinal column. It's also possible the woman profiled in that section simply discovered how to work her chakric energies without ever coming across tantra, and therefore did not know to mention to Ogden just what she was doing, or at least did not have the language of tantra and kundalini to make it clearer how this can in fact be learned.

It can also be learned by men, though most tantric sourcebooks suggest that it is often more difficult for at least many men to approach this particular knowledge than it is for many women.

I thought that was called heroin...


Really though, not that I've done any or anything (ahem), but aren't most drugs good enough? I mean really... And if not, then can't you masturbate? I always kind of thought of orgasms as an alternative to drugs. Just a thought really, but is there any way to satisfy you if that's not enough?

AND, if there was a drug that made you pop on command there would be no real interest in (oh, what's it called)...sex. Oh sure, people say there would be, but in reality they'd be too busy cumming on the streets, buses, trains, and in their cars and living rooms to actually get with someone and do it right natural.

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On the other hand, I think among other things the sheer importance of sex as a reproductive practice would die away, and perhaps an elite sexual force (people that don't need or even want said drug) will evolve, advancing orgasmology to a new level that would render the drug useless. As a further result, all addicts' families would die away, and the phonebook won't have so many Johnsons, Smiths, or Durbins in it anymore.


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Some takers of Clomipramine, a drug marketed under the brand name Anafranil by Ciba Pharmaceuticals, have experienced yawn-induced orgasms as a side effect.

Anafranil, which is prescribed for the treatment of obsessive-compulsive disorders, has been available in the United States for more than five years.

Obsessive-compulsive disorders are persistent and repetitive behaviors, such as constant hand washing, that result from obsession.

Linda Mayer, a spokeswoman for Ciba Pharmaceuticals, could not quantify the number of "yawngasm" reports. "We don't really have specific numbers, other than our medical department has said it is rare," Mayer said.

--- Christine Kosovac, in the Penn State University's "Collegian" newspaper

So there ya go. You can either wash your hands into a pulp, claim you have OCD and ask to be prescribed Anafranil. Or jerk off.
Before you run out for a prescription for Clomipramine, know this: Only four cases were reported during the drug tests and fewer than five percent of clomipramine users report this side effect. A MUCH more common side effect is anorgasmia (delayed or lack of orgasm). Stick with Rosie. She's free, and ready when you are.

Published Reports on this Topic:

McLean JD, Forsythe RG & Kapkin IA: Unusual side effects of clomipramine associated with yawning. Canadian Journal of Psychiatry 1983; 28:569-570.

Bertschy G. Vandel S. Sechter D. Bizouard P. , Yawning and sexual excitation under clomipramine. Role of serotoninergic mechanisms. Apropos of 2 cases. Review French. Encephale. 17(6):515-7, 1991 Nov-Dec

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