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The truth is not your friend

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(idea) by Inverse Halo (5.5 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Sun Jan 14 2001 at 8:23:27

The truth is not facts. The truth is concepts.

Let me Tell you about concepts and facts. Facts can be manipulated for your gain (or detriment), facts are points in the space that is systems.

Systems make the world. Knowledge of systems is truth (false truths=false knowledge of systems=lies). Facts might help you find the truth, because facts are points in systems.

Yeah.

Back to my point, which is: you can ignore facts, you can befriend systems, but the truth is Never, Ever your friend.

The Truth is laws you can't manipulate (with current non-hyperfuturistic technology).

You cannot deny truth, as the fish cannot deny that there is water.


(idea) by singbat (5.3 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 1 C! Sun Jan 14 2001 at 8:46:24

 
But then there are many, many, many, so many things that are not your friend.

Given the above, it is a simple possibility that that which is not truth may be your friend. I'm Ok with this myself.

However, given the specificity of the case, it seems statistically unlikely that the enemy of your enemy is actually your friend.

My sense is that you are more or less alone in this one.

best of luck...

 

 
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   i just plug them in
     do do doo doo do
   they are my best friends...
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(idea) by rufus-P (7.2 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Fri Jan 19 2001 at 14:59:05

You should get help with your paranoia. But onto the serious business

Counter argument 1
Traditional western philosophy teaches us, through the study of epistemology, that knowledege is (almost) justified true belief. I would argue that facts are essentially knowledge - that what makes a truth a fact is that it is known by someone.

Hence, facts don't help you find the truth, but rather, the truth helps you discover facts (through the action of justifying your belief).

Counter argument 2
In a state of war, two sides oppose each other. If one knows the truth, and it is their enemy, then surely it is the friend of their opponent?


(idea) by Templeton (2.8 wk) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Fri Jan 19 2001 at 15:26:39

Given the construct of the human mind, almost all truths can be relative to interpretation. Some of this is due to the fact that most things we believe are often glorified opinions. Even factual, real time occurances can be mistaken in their intent. I am often led to believe that the only truths we know with any reasonable certainty are the ones we are willing to die for, such as our own actions and those beliefs or tenets about a power higher than our own on which we pin the stability of our existance, purpose and meaning.

I only know, with reasonable certainty, what I have done in my own life. I cannot be sure of things my family or friends have done (either to me or to themselves) because my memory is more easily failed upon such recollections. The truths that are to be known about me are seldom things I am proud of, but I am proud to have come out of them with minimal damage. The truths we contain are often our biggest flaws, which are in turn the most important and significant parts of our identity, not the perfections, as we are often led to believe.

The truth is not your friend if you are afraid of being found out for what you truly are. It is never your friend if you want to live continually in fear or do not want people to get too close to you. Or if you want to run for office. The truth can only be your friend when you do not fear it, when you can rise above your worst deeds and not allow them to control you, others' opinions of you, or your life. I don't think they were ever intended for those purposes but have been given over to society's concept of good and evil in view of public opinion over the facts.


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