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The Smiths

(person) by Soberty (2.4 wk) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 1 C! Mon Apr 17 2000 at 17:00:34

Rooted in the North English working-class and with that typical Mancunian intensity and arrogance, medio 80`s the Smiths grew into the best band the British Islands ever brought forth.
Stephen Morrissey`s often controversial lyrics with titles like Heaven knows I`m miserable now, Meat is murder and Some girls are bigger than others, in combination with Johny Marr`s brilliant guitar- and melodylines, resulted in a few classical, English popsongs.
Raving about icons from a gray past (Oscar Wilde, James Dean) and coquetting with his a-sexuality, especially Morrissey drew the attention. After the break-up with The Smiths he wrote some other good songs, but the magic of the Morrissey/Marr-tandem was missing.

Essential records:

Hatful of Hollow (Rough trade '84)
The queen is dead (Rough trade '86)


(thing) by k80z (6.6 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Fri Apr 28 2000 at 4:15:21

It's the one about an incredibly amazing group of boys from Manchester, England who ended up banding together in the early 80s to create possibly the most prolific band of the decade.

They called themselves, in typically English style, The Smiths.

You see two of these boys especially formed the nucleus of this creative engine - we will call them Johnny and Morrissey. Johnny was a bit of a swinger - boozing, whoring and whatnot, and by day he crafted some of the most organic and exciting pop songs one could hope to ever hear.Morrissey on the other hand was a famously celibate vegetarian, melancholic to the end and foppish to boot, and his lyrics reflected this - gender bending, existential angst, loneliness - a teen dream.

This conflict was to inform their physical demise but it also ensured the durability of their music.

Eclectic, mad, beautiful, cooing.

This story is an often told one but its relevance remains unrivalled.

All hail the power of The Smiths for they are truth and beauty, and beauty and truth.


(thing) by bigmouth_strikes (1.9 mon) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Sat Sep 02 2000 at 14:34:39

The Smiths debut album, originally titled 'The Hand That Rocks The Cradle', was released in 1984 simply titled 'The Smiths'. Produced by John Porter.

Complete discography of the band:


(thing) by conform (2.3 wk) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 1 C! Fri Apr 27 2001 at 21:41:03

The Smiths being that rare band who consistently churned out singles what were the equal or better of their albums, here is a Smiths singles discography. Due to the fantastic number of singles the band released, I'll be arranging the discography by country, starting with UK releases. UK Singles (All are on Rough Trade records unless otherwise noted): In the early 90s, WEA (which I think had perhaps aquired the Smiths' US label Sire) began (re-)issuing cd singles to accompany the release of the Best...I and Best...II compilations. These singles follow the common british practice of appearing in several different versions to enourage fans to buy all of them (in part because the sales of each different single contributes to a single chart position listing). The next single accompanied the release of the Singles compilation.
  • Ask 7"/CD (February 1995). 7" is as original and CD is as the original 12". Cover art is the same.

For future noding: US and other international singles of interest. 1/17/03


(idea) by J. Totale (6.9 mon) (print)   ?   (I like it!) Wed May 15 2002 at 15:25:38

Surprised not to see a node by Helen4Morrissey here, but I would like to address something that has not been touched on; where the Smiths got their name from.

There have been many competing theories, the most popular two both concerning themselves with Morrissey's desire to reach the working class, but sometimes failing: His frequent mentionings of homosexual characters and homosexuality, and the meat pie incident (Morrissey was a devout vegetarian* who wanted the band to follow him (eg. album 'Meat Is Murder'). Andy Rourke (I think) was seen eating a meat pie in public, and a big deal of the incident was made in the music press) come to mind
  • First is that the band wanted a really common name, something that wouldn't look out of place in a class list or a role call.
  • The second is that Morrissey wanted to name the band after somewhat of an inspirational figure for him: Mark E. Smith from the Fall, lead singer of another Mancunian band who started about six or seven years before the Smiths.

*No one was a vegetarian amongst the working class in England in the eighties.

(person) by Eos (1.4 y) (print)   ?   (I like it!) 6 C!s Fri Dec 06 2002 at 6:58:46

"I think if I'd led an acceptably frivolous teenage life I wouldn't be singing in this group. I'm sure if you have a great time and get everything you want, all the friends you want, then you tend not to be so ambitious. If you're deprived of certain things it makes you very resilient and you kick very hard for what you want. And I wanted something very special because I'd led such an unspecial life previous to the Smiths." - Morrissey, 1983

The Smiths began in 1982. Guitarist Johnny Marr and Morrissey decided to create a band focused on the music, rather than the image. Hence, the name "The Smiths" was chosen, which was chosen as the most common, ordinary name they could think of, in protest to the extravagant names of most bands of the era.

"Nothing spurs you on like anger and we were angry about all the ugly people who control this business and all the ugly faces on Top Of The Pops. Why all the ugliness? It's very strange - this complete lack of intellect and complete lack of sensitivity. And of course there was nothing more repellent than the synthesizer, so it was really time to sweep all that down the drain.

To say everything is hopeless, which is what people have been saying up till now, is a pointless attitude and that's where our belief in beauty and charm comes in. It's not to do with having a perfect profile or alabaster teeth." - Morrissey, 1983

Interestingly enough, they originally intended to only write songs and sell them to other groups. Andy Rourke and Mike Joyce joined up as bass guitarist and drummer, respectively, and the newly formed band was signed to do a single after their seventh live performance, by Mancunian Factory Records. Their first single was "Hand In Glove", which was an immediate hit, sweeping the UK. They stood out from the bands of the time because of their avoidance of synthesizers, and their down-to-roots style of dress. In an age of glam rock, they avoided the gimmicks and popular hooks of the day to focus on the song writing. They were quickly signed to Rough Trade Records, (Sire Records was their distributor in the US) and released their second single, the hit "This Charming Man", and the eagerly awaited eponymous album "The Smiths" was released in 1984. The critics of the day were harsh on the album, claiming it didn't live up to the promise their earlier singles had shown. The tone of the album was morose, not the energetic feel their two singles had exhibited.

"Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now" and "William It Was Really Nothing", combined with the earlier singles helped propel this album eventually to #2, although it was slow going until they were aided by controversy over one of their songs. The media took Suffer Little Children, about the horrific Moors Murders, and called it sympathetic to the murderer, Ian Brady. This, of course, drew more people to their albums, bringing them attention through media instead of their music.

"(The tabloids) hound me, and it gets very sticky. What makes me more dangerous to them than anybody else is the fact that I lead somewhat of a religious lifestyle. I'm not a rock 'n' roll character. I despise drugs, I despise cigarettes, I'm celibate and I live a very serene lifestyle. But I'm also making very strong statements lyrically, and this is very worrying to authoritarian figures. They can't say that I'm in a druggy haze or soaking in alcohol and that I'll get out of it. They probably think I'm some sort of sex-craved monster. But that's okay -- they can think what they like. I'm only interested in evidence, and they can't produce any evidence to spoil my character." - Morrissey, 1985

When they released the single "How Soon Is Now", the song was a huge hit and came just as the band was falling under disfavor. This is probably the Smiths song that is most remembered, to this day. They gained such acclaim, that their second album, "Meat is Murder" debuted at #1 on the British charts. After this, Rourke quit the band to deal with his growing drug addiction. He was replaced by Craig Gannon, who helped them record the next album and was retained when Andy Rourke returned, clean. Next up was "The Queen is Dead", which was their first album to enter the top 100 in the US. The theme of the album brought controversy, bringing them back to that which had earlier propelled them to the top of the charts.

"The reason why Morrissey and I got together in the first place to write songs - and the reason why it was so successful - was because we both felt the need to react against what we'd been hearing over the past X years. Basically, we had a lot of gripes. I don't think groups can succeed unless they've got something they feel uncomfortable about. If you're happy with the music you're making and the music around you then you're going to be complacent, boring and safe." - Johnny Marr, 1983

It was after their fourth album, "Strangeways Here We Come" in 1987 that the trouble that had been brewing became evident. The band had grown increasingly large and mainstream. Under pressure from their record company to produce the big hits, Johnny Marr began drinking heavily and grew tired of the industry, finally quitting the band in August. The band sought a replacement for several months, and released statements that the departure of Marr had been entirely as a result of the scope of the band, but this came across as unconvincing. Marr and Morrissey had been out of communication for months, prior to his leaving, and the press discovered this. The search for a replacement was unsuccesfull, and Morrissey eventually officially broke up the band in September to pursue his solo career. The controversy of their careers as the Smiths has all but died, now, and all that remains is the original core of the band, their songs. No small legacy.

Sources
http://www.askmeaskmeaskme.com/history.htm
http://www.compsoc.man.ac.uk/~moz/faq/histbio.htm
http://arcane.morrissey-solo.com/smiths/disc/


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Morrissey The Queen Is Dead Meat Is Murder Hatful of Hollow
Louder Than Bombs Strangeways, Here We Come There Is a Light that Never Goes Out This Charming Man
Heaven Knows I'm Miserable Now The Boy with the Thorn in His Side math rock What difference does it make?
Bigmouth Strikes Again Johnny Marr How Soon is Now? Girlfriend in a Coma
Belle and Sebastian Oral sex Groundskeeper Willie Suffer Little Children
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore Duct tape does not make a good bra Oscar Wilde The Cure
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